What's The Data Point? Episode 22 -- 10, with Michael Jacobson [You can download What's The [Data] Point? wherever you get your podcasts, including on iTunes]

Michael Jacobson is the executive director of the CUNY Institute for State and Local Governance and is involved in efforts to close the Rikers Island jail complex. Previously, he has served as the city's correction commissioner as well as the probation commissioner. He joined the podcast to discuss his work as a member of the Lippman Commission convened by the City Council to solve the crisis at Rikers, especially the plans for expanding borough-based jail facilities that would replace the Rikers jails if all goes according to plan.

Listen to the conversation and let us know what you think: Ben Max of GG (@TweetBenMax), Carol Kellerman of CBC (@cbcny), and guest Michael Jaobson (@Michaelislg). Listen below or download wherever you get your podcasts!